10.3 hours played
Written 22 days ago
[h1]Coming back to Ark is like coming back to find your house on fire[/h1]
I haven't played ark in half a decade and recently tried both ASA and ASE. It's June 11th, 2025. Here's my honest observation and review of both as of today. I did NOT know of the recent controversies and just wanted to play a dino game, what I actually returned to is probably the most mismanaged franchise in gaming. I've played games for over 3 decades.
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[h2]Trying Ark Ascended (Terrible)[/h2]
I started by not loading up ASE (already owned half of it) as I was recently given ASA as a gift from a friend. I have a mid-range setup with a 30 series card and generally I can play any game with reasonable experiences at 1080p. I'm fine with jank and I'm fine with bugs but me trying ASA coincides with them doing a unreal 5.5 update. I thought Monster Hunter Wilds was an un-optimized POS but ASA took the cake! Stalker 2 looks like a shining jewel by comparison.
After a dozen hours of ASA, the bugs are insane! Resources not graphically de-spawning/sticking, AI wonk, FPS is terrible even with upscaling, crashes are frequent. Heck, you can't even mine crystal right now. You literally cannot touch it with a pickaxe. You NEED to use console commands to get it to run well. The Game Pass versions of both ASA/ASE are ports of the xbox versions with various problems and I highly suggest staying away from them as multiplayer between platforms or otherwise just doesn't function properly.
The ONLY real benefits I seen of ASA was that it's a great graphical leap forward which means very, very little. Wireless? Couldn't care less. Babies? Doesn't change anything. The structure size and snapping is definitely great, but when everything surrounding these changes is just a coat of very badly running paint, it's hard not to admit that ASA really is a bit of a cash grab. It's not a matter of 'welp you just don't own a 3% marketshare setup to enjoy it like I do!' Or the anecdotes.
The MODS I used playing ASA are literally just DUPLICATE RECREATIONS of mods in ASE! There isn't a SINGLE thing I am missing by playing ASE. The only thing I MIGHT miss out on are some particular ASA only maps/mods that I don't feel are essential. The ASA update into 5.5 might be just bad timing, but really I think it's just very showing of how cooked snail/WC are.
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[h2]Played ASE (Pretty Good)[/h2]
Boot up ASE, sure it takes more storage space but the thing actually runs respectfully by comparison, which is absolutely insane to say. Yes it's got bugs, the same bugs that ASA doesn't fix. I can't complain and don't feel like I'm missing out on ANY content from ASA. And I double checked by playing it first, in my first couple dozen hours the only thing I actually 'missed' was building snapping and some QOL that honestly just doesn't make it a fundamentally different, or better experience.
Other than the literal 2 mods that don't exist for ASE related to wireless items, every other ASA mod I used is just a updated version of an identical mod from ASE, so playing ASE over ASA has mean't me missing basically nothing.
I much preferred ASE because it was stable, I don't have to worry about ridiculous updates, don't need a single digit marketshare setup to enjoy/run and It feels like it was made originally by people with a great idea at least whereas ASA just feels like another day milking the cow teet.
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[h2]Mismanagement/Why/How[/h2]
Given how popular this franchise was and still is and recently getting back into this, I had to ask "How/Why did this happen?" And I found out so many things that it disgusted me.
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[*]https://investor.snail.com/board-member/hai-shi -- This is the CEO of Snail. ARK has made over 1.3 Billion USD. This dude and others decided to take the profits of this franchise, not put it back into it and instead start a business called IndiEV, a flopped, failed Electric Vehicle Company and a few other failed ventures. (It seems all the money is gone.)
[*]Snail is developing Ark Aquatica, a new map/dlc that will brick lots of ASE saves/mods if it actually happens. The trailer they released was AI Slop and quickly they tried to delete it off the internet. The marketing department was totally out of contact with the actual development team and thought this all was OK. Even if this all turns out OK, it reeks of ineptitude and poor management. If Aquatica releases as it likely will, it will brick all of ASE for a time and many mods and saves are going to break. All so Snail can get some more $.
[*]ASA (Ark Survival Ascended) was originally supposed to be a free update/engine rework just like how other successful franchises moving to UE5 have done so. This quickly was changed as ARK 2 (with Vin Diesel) seems to right now be in developmental hell while they simultaneously try to sell us ASA. Why is ASA here today?
[*]ASA is being run with more of it in WC's hands rather than Snail, leading to this whole Aquatica DLC thing of Snail wanting to make another buck on the old version. Often people seem to like WC while saying Snail is the problem, however I think WC is just as scummy as snail. Snail when ASA was coming out forced WC via contracts to finish ASA by certain dates or have to actually PAY millions upon millions from all the future ark products. ASA being the way it is is absolutely NO surprise. But, WC very clearly are complacent.
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Spent half a decade not even thinking about this game, came back and in 30 something years I have NEVER seen a franchise get cooked quite like this. ASE is still the superior product and it likely always will be. Here's to hoping aquatica and the ****show it is going to be doesn't permanently ruin this version.
Nicer maps and better graphics/baby dinos do NOT make a better game when ASA is such a buggy POS mess. And the only people who tend to defend ASA are console andy's playing versions that don't look any better.