Empire of Sin

They made a post saying, "We hand it to you modders" but then later down the road give a DLC that breaks all the major mods and contributes barely anything.

I still wish there was more rackets but once i got past that i started to really enjoy the game. Its not perfect they decided to go woke instead of aiming for historical accuracy. They have trans bosses and about one quarter of your henchmen look like some form trans. According to this game about a quarter of all Chicago's gangsters in the 20's were trans. Half the gangsters are women and a good portion of them are old ladies. So it's really hard making a crew that could be considered realistic which is my main gripe with this game why do we have to force today's issues into a game about 1920's bootlegging? i don't know but despite all that ridiculousness I still enjoy this game which says a lot because woke shit is dumb

So the tl:dr is: Are people right about bugs existing? I found out the hard way the answer is undoubtedly yes. Are reviews correct that there are still game breaking bugs? So far in almost 6 hours ive found a single game breaking bug. The other bugs were just annoying such as visual bugs and a few bugs with the UI. But aside from the clear bug issues its honestly a fun game. And apparently it has a new dev, which honestly doesnt make me all that hopeful for the game in the long run, but at least im hopeful now that at least some of the bugs that exist now might be worked on at some point. The long story if you care: So ive had this game on my radar since it came out. never pulled the trigger on it though because normally it is quite pricey and the fact the original dev abandoned the game with numerous bugs was just a big turn off for me for a game i would otherwise have enjoyed and probably would have still got on sale if only the dev worked on the glaring existing bugs people were reporting before dumping the game. Apparently as of recently there is a new dev. From what i gather appointed to the game by paradox to pump out a promised dlc for legal reasons. which honestly doesnt bother me personally. Ive read from some people the dlc is actually pretty good. Others seem to be review bombing it. Didnt buy it yet though myself because i wanted to see if the base game was still full of bugs first which i found out it indeed still is. Supposedly there have been "some bug fixes" according to the community since the new dev came in but since theres no news on the steam page for the game i'm not sure thats 100% true. In 6 hours of gameplay ive actually ran into a rather disappointing amount of bugs but in all honesty the vast majority of them are simply annoying rather than game breaking. Which does still kill the experience i could have with the game but wouldnt keep me from playing. Some of the bugs ive encountered are as follows: -Visual bugs where when a friendly gangster goes down in combat sometimes they will reappear invisible all except for their weapon if they are healed from a bleeding out state -UI bug when starting a new game that sometimes happens where characters dont show their abilities or stats as well as any option to actually start the game in which you have to go back to the main menu and start a new game again. -Visual bug where random abilities in combat will look as if they are selected when they actually arent. for example al capones rain of bullets ability for me was often visually showing the abilities radius when in fact i had no abilities selected yet. -Some new games will fail to show you the screen of selectable hires when using the blackbook to try and hire crew mates. The only game breaking bug i found was a few occasions where i would try to initiate combat through various dialogue options on various missions and while the game would pull me into the combat it wouldnt actually start the combat and therefore effectively soft locking my game where id have to then load a previous save. For example on one of the first missions where i have to talk to the guards at a brothel to try and get in, eventually one of the options you get is to initiate combat with the guards and thats when this happened to me twice in a row. That being said i have at least some hopes that with the new dev we will get at least some bug fixes. Hard to say at this point though. Id be more encouraged to purchase dlc for the game at a later date if there was a show of good faith from the new dev to patch out some of the bugs that exist personally. As someone who didnt buy into the game early for the expansion pass i have no comment regarding that issue. And honestly i think if the games bugs were actively worked on people who would have liked to play this game in the past might be encouraged to come back to it. Because aside from the issue of the game being a buggy mess, fundamentally theres nothing wrong with the game its self. other than a few qol improvements that would be nice to see, the game its self is a lot of fun and what ive always wanted in a open world 1920 era mafia style of game. So its kind of too bad theres still a lot of bugs as of now and the fact the game is still getting negative reviews, because theres a great shell of a game here with lots of potential. Not many games like this out there so i have my fingers crossed that both paradox and the new dev might do some things to try and put some life back into this game, and some good will amongst its player base. Id honestly love to see this game make a come back and do well but knowing paradox's reputation for upkeeping games that comercially failed, my hopes for any future for this game feels mixed. I dont see why they wouldnt try and revive this game as its loaded with potential to be something great. Anyway, if you like mafia style games this ones honestly not a bad pick up on a steep sale as of the time of this review. And literally the only reason i say that is because of bugs that still exist and the fact we have no way of telling if the bugs will be fixed in the future or not. But if youre able to look past most of the bugs that do exist and see the game for what its meant to be its honestly not a bad game. Though if you want to play something similar to this but thats less graphically fitted you can always go get city of gangsters. The combat isnt really there in that game like it is in this one but its bugs were mostly stomped and all things considered is a finished and complete game that still does a great job at scratching the open world mob game itch. I give all my best wishes to the new dev and really hope to see the bugs in this game get worked on in the future. Would be nice to have this game function at least mostly with out bugs at some point and im in their corner rooting for them if they do so. So the take away here is, if you like mafia kind of games, this ones not as terrible as people in the reviews tend to make it seem. There are a good number of bugs, probably more than ive come across, but outside of that its a good resource management/strategy game. I would just recommend waiting until its on massive sales to pick it up at least until we have any proof the game is being worked on again outside of only releasing a dlc 4 years later to get around legal issues. My fingers are still crossed for this game.

Honestly, awesome game that was ruined with the last patch having more game breaking bugs than content. BUT with a new developer on the case, hopefully they can fix some of the broken quests and continue the story. The structure for success is there, game can be really fun, just needs some love.

This game must have been fixed since launched, Tried it for first time, with all DLCs, and its a very immersive and fun experience.

Excellent to see, that this game was brought to back in life at 2025! Played it again for couple of hours and the enjoyment is still there. Hopefully it gets treated well, as it deserves and there will be continous support from developers. There is lot of potential and possibilities to expand this game! "Someday - and that day may never come - I'll call upon you to do a service for me." - Don Corleone

Great game if you like 4x, Tactical, Turned Based, Strategy Games. And to top it off, adds a Highly Accurate Twist of Historical American Prohibition Period. Smart Deadly AI, Supported by a Soundtrack thats great & matches that era of time. There is always something to do and Strategize about. Great job Publisher for delving into uncharted territory & great job Development. You should be proud of yourselves.

Say what you want but the game is a good one. I hope the developers come back to this game and polish a bit more. I am happy to pay for another DLC

this game is just cash grab i hate to say it. I played it on xbox and steam. I log on to update hoping you fixed some core missions in game that don't work. Now to find my save file gone. i get updating game can be hard but some bugs are so easy to fix. but as far as this game goes i don't believe you guys should charging what your charging. that fact some base game has been broken by updates and instead of fixing it you guys making more dlc. then still say play thought missions even though you can't. This game borders on false adds also you don't find issues in until your to far into the game for a refund. I love this game when 1st came out but now i would say stay away it not worth your money.

Game is an interesting mix of turn based tactic and economic strategy made in really interesting and unusual setting for this genre. If you like this kind of games definitely should try it. Especially if you like noir and 20-40 USA Aesthetics and noir.

I seen the preview commercials long before it released, ever since I thought thats gonna be a cool game. It's been on my wishlist ever since it released. Finally got it in this summer sale... It is so much better than you might know at first glance. It's basically a prohibition era version of Xcom crossed with perhaps, I dunno, Star Trek Birth of the Federation. If you love either of those games you will probably have a blast with this one, especially if you like the whole gangster themed empire building. Sure, they could probably have done more, added more, expanded, but it is a solid playable game as is. Anyone who doesn't like the game probably doesn't like any of the other games either... It is kind of a hybrid of everything, not quite real time but not strictly turn based either. And, your every decision matters. So, if you love Xcom, or similar, you probably going to enjoy this. If thats not your kind of game, then you probably wont.

The worst part about this game is that it's fun, the story is simple but the game play is fun. The combat scratches the itch I have for games like this. The controls are easy to understand and can be as complex or complicated as you'd like it to be. With that being said this game is an old release. Years and years old BUT there are still tons of game breaking bugs that don't allow you to progress in the already simple story. Getting soft locked in a game this old from a simple mission is frustrating and makes your play through impossible to complete. I wasted almost 20 hours in this play though. I can still play can still attack others but I can't "beat" the game. Frustrating and uninstalling. I'd say wait to buy when they fix the issues but the game is old enough.

I played this game on the console years ago when it first came out. It's come a long way since then with added complexity and more challenges. My first go round I found myself tiring of it because game play was fairly easy. Now I find it to be more interesting and fun.

Its not the greatest game, you can tel the quality is a little on the lower, however even with that you have a full structure and system inside of it. voice acting is mid, some good some bad, most of what you expect, best part about it is its dedication. look I am not saying its the worst, the gameplay is actually very fun, the characters are diverse, the whole game itself is what we can ask for, in a Mafia turn based game. weapons actually adorn your characters, unique system to strive to max out your character, even the cast of characters you can have on your team or even against it are all voiced. is it worth its price? no but it is worth its sale price. to try and not only that but if you like turn base and rpg its actually a good game to just give a shot. personally even if im the only one, i do enjoy it and wanted to see more from them even in the first appearance of their start up. i still want them to learn from this whole game, improve it, work on it, and create the best mafia game in the world. with that said if you were to ask me how far that is, they would be 10% of the way of using their full potential. they got the right ideas, right type of gameplay, style, and whats more is it is 3D. but if you were to try this, id try it on sale and then make a judgment of what it could be. because personally i do find myself playing it from time to time. overall socre? 5/10 turn base game. 6.5/10 mafia game. i expect them to continue to iron out the stuff like weird animation, voice acting, and add more to it like car collection, whiskey creation, goon stories, and more historical bases. then they may get their 8/10. but thats only if they were to take that potential they can have and put it to work.

I think that this game gets too much hate I understand that there can be some serious bugs and game breaking glitches. But this game is seriously so much fun and completely addicting.

its too buggy the game shows you more paths on how to handle stuff but have same outcome but no matter how much i try or how many times i play you get bugged out and cannot enter any building or interact with other character beacuse game says youre in a building while you roam around the map freely and then you just cannot do anything, no restart or redownload doesnt work i tried it buggs out 100% and your save file can go bye bye mainly with mission its all irish to me

DO NOT BUY THIS ONE!!! They have recently removed any running saved games for players and are not fixing it. They sell this game with a save game mechanic yet have now broken it.

Empire of sin is the best mafia strategy game i've ever played.

*updated review* This game is 5 years old and riddled with game breaking bugs. Apparently Paradox has taken over development. I wish them well, but it needs much more than just bug fixes. This game's primary sin is that it's confusing and much of what you do is inconsequential. The game is about expanding territory. The map is divided into precincts. You can build a speakeasy, a brother or a casino to make money. You build a brewery to provide them with booze. There's no difference between them though. Sure, casinos don't stop making money when there's no booze, but you will never run out. You don't need to provide girls for the brothels. There's some talk about "chemistry between buildings" but... money isn't particularly hard to come by. So, the buildings might as well have called the buildings Red, Blue and Yellow. You can upgrade Red Blue and Yellow, but their upgrades are always the same. You get to upgrade security, reduce the amount of attention they get, and increase income. For the latter - and this is VERY exciting - you can either increase ambiance to increase spending, or increase word of mouth, which... increases spending! I can barely contain myself. So maybe we should call these two upgrades "Increase spending A" and "Increase Spending B". Now that we know how to upgrade Red, Blue and Yellow with Increase A and B, and you have applied a few upgrades to make more money in your first precinct, we can completely forget that knowledge. It is inconsequential. You are there to conquer the map, remember? You will never ever need to upgrade any building you conquer. Seriously. Once you have upgraded Red, Blue and Yellow in your first precinct with A and B, you are golden! GOLDEN! You have enough dough to hire goons and take over the map. From now on, that is all you do. You attack a precinct with admittedly competent but not super interesting turn-based combat, take over the central depot, put new Red, Blues and Yellows into place (no need for A and B!) and move on to the next precinct. Occasionally you build a brewery. Upgrading their production does help somewhat. But you could also only ever build Blues and Yellows. Then you don't need booze. Money is pouring in. Your goons are decent in a fight but they aren't much good for anything else. You can assign a sub boss and an advisor. Sounds intriguing, but you will never even know they are there. Once you have 4-5 precincts under control (you can do this without attacking a single other crime family) you are so big, no one has the balls to attack you. Everyone comes begging for your protection. Oh! The missions! I almost forgot the missions! Go to a Red in location 1, talk to dude. Next, go to a Blue in location 2, kill all dudes. Return to original red, talk to dude, get your reward. EVERY mission fits into that scheme. Sometimes you visit 7 locations. I am over the moon! Not really, I am over this game. The sin, here, is that it was put on sale. I bought it at discount, and that was still too much.

started it it crashed didn't wane start again so i refunded it

Abandoned. Could have been an all time great game

if you like XCOM youll love this game.

great game

Nice game. Wished they kept with it.

they actually did it

underrated